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Bill Bruce
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It's perfectly understandable for anyone wanting to start a successful club to start the way you have Sarah, and unlike many of the room above a pub gigs that come and go every week it looks like you've made a go of it.
Although I've learned just as much from watching established comics die as I have from them succeed.
I'm thinking of a particularly grim Edinburgh Festival gig by Greg Proops, who I'm a fan of, so was surprised to see come adrift.
Comedy is a great leveller, just when you think you're the dog's bollocks, the comedy gods will come along and remind you that you're only half right! |
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sarah jackson
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| Is Greg related to Marj? Maybe he was dishing out crap advice to a heckler .... (I know, I'm showing my age!) |
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Bill Bruce
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Sarah!
If you don't know who Greg Proops is, then maybe you need to get out and see more established acts. |
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sarah jackson
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I know. I know. Was just being glib. Didn't pull it off .....  |
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danny james
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| sarah jackson wrote: | | I reckon any open spot who cuts out one or two of his own gigs a week and watches pros work will learn more. |
At the early stages of comedy, stage time is the most precious thing you have. Watching well established comics does prove useful, but not to the extent that stage time will.
Watching pro comics can lead to tendancies to emulate favourite styles, posture and delivery, and will never transpire to an entirely original concept. (Emulating other comics is not always a bad thing).
that is all. |
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sarah jackson
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I know what you mean Danny ...... but I reckon that stage time is it's own lesson and watching the craft of those who've already learned, and listening to their advice, is another.
Balance in everything. |
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Toby
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I remembered this thread from ages back, and I think it makes a good point. A lot of open spots don't see what happens in big weekend clubs, which is why they can sometimes take longer to get to play them.
On that basis, I'll offer up to ten seats a night in The Last Laugh in Sheffield, normally fifteen pounds each, for open mics to come and see what we do. As long as we have the seats, you can have them. You must have some evidence of gigging, and it's a ticket for you and a guest, you can't have all ten! Requests to lastlaughcomedy@googlemail.com need to be in by Tuesday for a weekend show.
It's a compere, normally me, and three acts. This weekend we had Mike Wilkinson, Matt Blaize and Craig Campbell. And there's a bit of music at the end if you want it.
It's two hours on the train from London, and there are B&Bs in Sheffield for thirty quid. Come and see us. |
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Lufisto
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Damn good idea Mr Toby.
Always good to learn from our betters |
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Omydaize
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Mirth control are very useful to open spots to do better gigs and speak to more established comics, if they are willing to drive the acts there..
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Anthony Miller
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| sarah jackson wrote: | | In answer to all this (point taken about having time for your families Bill) ... I reckon any open spot who cuts out one or two of his own gigs a week and watches pros work will learn more. |
Hum. When I used to write poetry many of the magazine editors and poets
would write endless reams of prose (which took up a lot of paper which cost money
which could have been used to print more original work) endlessly bemoaning
that everyone was a writer and not a reader and everyone wanted to publish
but no one wanted to put their hand in their pocket to buy
and that all the writers would be better writers if they read more.
And that this was why the general state of writing.
While it's true that all the masters in every artform
studied the craft of their contemporaries
you'd have to be deeply uncynical to not realise
that however worthy it sounds written this is also
a very very obviously self-serving arguement repetatively
put forward on behalf of the already established to explain
why other people should pay go see/read them
rather than create their own original work. In short
I can't help feeling that it's a bit of a guilt trip designed to socially divide.
However, it's nice to go and watch now and again as often when you're gigging
you forget how enjoyable watching can be because you're not in that frame of mind.
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andrewoneill
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In a similar spirit to Toby - any comic who's gigging regularly can come to the Troy Club for free. First Sunday of every month, Crobar, Soho. Recent acts: Sarah Millican, Steve Hughes, Robin Ince, Stephen Carlin, Richard Herring...
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Bethany
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| Anthony Miller wrote: |
Hum. When I used to write poetry many of the magazine editors and poets |
I didn't realise that you wrote poetry, though that does explain how come you write in stanzas
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mike taylor
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As Warby said a lot of the Manchester clubs offer freebies to acts and promoters, (they usually drink enough to fund the night). The one thing that surprises me is when you get someone like Lee Martin offering free entry to MCF members to the Frog to see successful acts at the weekend they will get very few if any people taking them up. The open spots seem to go to watch other open spots at other gigs. A mistake in my opinion, watch the acts who can handle a Frog or Store crowd on a Friday or Saturday, that's how you learn. I don't know if that's the way it normally works down South, but it tends to be that way up here. I would never dream of charging a comic or promoter to come into a gig I was putting on. I realise it's a bit different if you've got someone with 'superstar' status, but I have no intention of putting on gigs at the MEN or O2
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