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Rhubarb

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 50 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I know there are subjects that can produce humour with little thought or effort and there are subjects that are endlessly addressed, often because they require little imagination on the part of the stand up...BUT...
If the ideas and observations are new and incisive doesn't that stop a subject being hack? - Is it not only comedians and materials that are hack whereas subjects, whilst difficult to do something new with, aren't definitively hack?
This is not a defence of keebab routines by the way!
Oh and if this subject was done to death a couple of times a year ago and it some how offends you that I didn't know that, then patronise me at your own risk... _________________ (Check Length) |
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birdy
Joined: 03 Nov 2001 Posts: 4744 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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If you're going to spend that much time finding a new angle on well-covered subject then why not look for something else that's more original entirely? _________________ Lower Quartile and PROUD! |
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Rhubarb

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 50 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Fair point, but what I'm getting at is, why avoid a subjecct if you have something new to bring to the table? - Sometimes ideas come from inspiration not just planning so, if you think of something new and funny about a 'hack' subject, you shouldn't feel that you can't use it because of snobbery and/or peer pressure. _________________ (Check Length) |
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Alex
Joined: 11 May 2001 Posts: 2481 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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There are no hack subjects, just hack material. _________________ WWW.LAUGHINGHORSECOMEDY.CO.UK
UK Comedy Clubs, Edinburgh Fringe's Free Festival,
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Rhubarb

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 50 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex wrote: | | There are no hack subjects, just hack material. |
That was the point I was making, I just wanted to see if people agreed...And you do  _________________ (Check Length) |
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richard
Joined: 08 Jun 2001 Posts: 2045
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Rich Hall said something like no matter what the subject matter, whether you're doing jokes about polar bears or fuzzy slippers, another comedian somewhere has already done jokes on this subject first. What prevents you doing hack material in the same area is tackling the subject with your own unique perspective and viewpoint, so technically, no subject is hack as long as you approach it in a different way.
(Mind you, I'm still a bit cynical that any more laughs can be extracted from flogged-to-death subjects like airline food, the difference between men and women, George Bush's surname being another name for a fanny etc.) |
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andrewoneill
Joined: 13 Jun 2002 Posts: 1367 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Saying that an audience member looks like Harry Potter cracks me up every time.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Harry Potter. _________________ www.andrewoneill.co.uk |
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Danny Deegan

Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm don't like people who run around going This is hack this is hack thats hack and so is that it's all hack.
These people run the risk of becoming comedy snobs. _________________ Danny Deegan
(Sucking the corporate cock of Comedy) |
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Karen
Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 524
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a dilemma about some of the material I use, I know that the subject is considered hack but I know that the punchlines aren't, but it came about from something that really happened. I was compering my club and told the story, Mark Maier who was headlining, said afterwards that it was really funny and that I should include it in my set, which I do and it gets really big laughs, but then I get accused for being hack.
Should you carry on doing stuff that gets big laughs despite feeling that your letting your comedy integrity slip, albeit for a couple of minutes, but then be accused of being hack for that small section. _________________ "Venus de mileage" Steve Day |
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andrewoneill
Joined: 13 Jun 2002 Posts: 1367 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I AM a comedy snob and I am very proud of being so.
What's your point? _________________ www.andrewoneill.co.uk |
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Rhubarb

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 50 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Karen wrote: | I've got a dilemma about some of the material I use, I know that the subject is considered hack but I know that the punchlines aren't, but it came about from something that really happened. I was compering my club and told the story, Mark Maier who was headlining, said afterwards that it was really funny and that I should include it in my set, which I do and it gets really big laughs, but then I get accused for being hack.
Should you carry on doing stuff that gets big laughs despite feeling that your letting your comedy integrity slip, albeit for a couple of minutes, but then be accused of being hack for that small section. |
If it's funny and original then the subject matter is unimportant surely? _________________ (Check Length) |
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Karen
Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 524
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well I know it's original cos it really happened. _________________ "Venus de mileage" Steve Day |
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Anthony Miller

Joined: 21 Jun 2001 Posts: 11023 Location: Chavdon
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares? Promoters are hypocrites
"How come you don't do your sea cucumber number anymore, Anthony?"
BECAUSE WHEN I USED TO DO INTERESTING STUFF NOBODY USED TO RE-BOOK ME
they'd just all say
"how interesting and original darling"!
Go hack. It's best. _________________ I have an unsatisfactory penis but it is the least of my problems.
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Rhubarb

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 50 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Anthony Miller wrote: | Who cares? Promoters are hypocrites
"How come you don't do your sea cucumber number anymore, Anthony?"
BECAUSE WHEN I USED TO DO INTERESTING STUFF NOBODY USED TO RE-BOOK ME
they'd just all say
"how interesting and original darling"!
Go hack. It's best. |
Perhaps it was interesting and original but not particularly funny? _________________ (Check Length) |
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| richard wrote: | | George Bush's surname being another name for a fanny |
...DAMN! I do one about it sounding like ladies pubic hair, which is quite similar. Can I get away with it or is it too similar? |
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