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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whereas by the time you're my age you're just used to asking people out
and them saying No ...to the extent that you realise that most of them are actually flattered
to be chatted up even by an ugly twat.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I happen to find female comedians unfunny more often than I find male comedians unfunny.

This may be because I less frequently relate to the material of a female comedian.

This does not mean that I will refuse to laugh if I do find a female comedian funny.

Sarah Silverman seems to be quite funny. Ellen Degeneres is quite funny. I have laughed at them both.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if drink might have something to do with it?

Most British stand up is watched in a context where drink is taken, and perhaps more nuanced - or more feminine - comedy is less welcome to a brain fuddled to some extent by alcohol. Even the less laddish male comics like Eddie Izzard had to get out of the Store/rooms above pubs and into the theatres & art centres before his stuff started to gel.

The original post was specifically about women acts going down badly with student audiences... might it be relevant that student audiences get pissed even quicker than other comedy audiences?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen this article?
http://www.chortle.co.uk/correspondents/2008/10/24/7663/women%3A_were_just_not_funny._period
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Please don't post on such old forum comments, as I get sucked in and feel a need to read from the start which takes ages (I was going to read Mein Kampf tonight, no time now).

2. The only way to clear the argument is for a male and a female comedian to perform the same set to similar audiences a few times, and guage the responses.
A less accurate, but easier idea is to watch a set and picture the other gender deliver it as you watch; i.e. watch Ricky Gervais' Animals and imagine it performed by Josie Long.

(Although I do accept that each gender has its own subject strengths.)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spankabuttux wrote:
1. Please don't post on such old forum comments, as I get sucked in and feel a need to read from the start which takes ages (I was going to read Mein Kampf tonight, no time now).

2. The only way to clear the argument is for a male and a female comedian to perform the same set to similar audiences a few times, and guage the responses.
A less accurate, but easier idea is to watch a set and picture the other gender deliver it as you watch; i.e. watch Ricky Gervais' Animals and imagine it performed by Josie Long.

(Although I do accept that each gender has its own subject strengths.)


Sorry, I'll probably get lots of hate: that is definately unfair in terms of experience and reputation, but I don't know, pick your own test subjects!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you remind them of their mums?

I mean if they're uni students then they've only recently left home and they don't want their "mum" on stage telling them jokes.

Either that or it's because they have seen Gina Yashery somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't get a shag?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="nevillehubball"]
Either that or it's because they have seen Gina Yashery somewhere.[/quote]

How come nobody on these forums seems to like Gina Yashere?

I met her once and she was really nice to me!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="imac hunt"]Have you seen this article?
http://www.chortle.co.uk/correspondents/2008/10/24/7663/women%3A_were_just_not_funny._period[/quote]

Just read this article.

What a load of bollocks.

So stand up is like fucking the audeince in the throat is it? What a weird comparison.

Seriously, that article was shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khartoun wrote:
imac hunt wrote:
Have you seen this article?
http://www.chortle.co.uk/correspondents/2008/10/24/7663/women%3A_were_just_not_funny._period


Just read this article.

What a load of bollocks.

So stand up is like fucking the audeince in the throat is it? What a weird comparison.

Seriously, that article was shit.


I agree with you, it was embarrassingly wide of the mark. If I were female I might have a different opinion, on the latent aggression of stand-up comedy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that there is aggression in stand up comedy - in fact without a certain type of aggression we couldn't get on stage at all and be, or at least appear, relaxed.

But I do feel that article went to far, claiming that stand up is not only akin to violence to the audience, but somehow akin to a sexually violent encounter in which the comedian dominates.

Fuck knows what that makes heckling.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't find women funny. Period!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khartoun wrote:


Fuck knows what that makes heckling.... Shocked
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I think that makes hecklers doggers
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article about women comics was crap. Near pointless. But, there was one salient point, and let me work up to it:

Standup isn't the beach where you want people to look at you because you're cute. A comic should approach their work in a genderless fashion. You want the audience to, as the article said, literally "be your bitch." What that means is you control them, not vice versa. You want their undivided audial attention.

Every audience is different. Sometimes vastly. A woman comic must learn that being nice and saying a friendly "hello" helps your set (as some vapid respondee pointed out early in this thread (and unfortunately, it was a woman and thus furthered the misnomer that women are not, when it comes to comedy, funny or profound)).

Be bold, work with confidence (even if your schtick is appearing woody allenesque - that is unsure of yourself, weak, stupid, whatever - be confident in your choice). Have a number of good responses to hecklers always at the ready because as a woman, chances are more than likely that some drunken sod of a bastard will pick on just because you are.

Put them in their place and you earn the extra dividend.
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