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Geraint Dafydd Evans



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: the showreel Reply with quote

So, given that the video i've been sending out is a bit old now, I thought i'd come here to see if there's any advice I can get from promoters/comedians about it.

My old vid is 5 mins, but given that i'm doing mostly 15-20's now should it be a bit longer?
Should it be taken from one gig in it's entirety or spliced between several?

There are so many differing opinions about that second one 'filming one gigs means you could have just had one good gig' or 'splicing in between makes it look like you just told one good joke at each gig'

Maybe i should just make two and let them watch whichever they want?

any other input would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tricky area because bad footage can lose you more gigs than good footage gets you. You really need something as professional as possible, and that usually means expensive.

I'm also ambiguous about putting my material online. I've compromised by putting stuff on my YouTube channel that is either made for YouTube, or is a clip of me on the radio, or doing a VoiceOver where material isn't an issue. There is also some of my improv online. I feel this gives people a flavour of my style and what I do without risking them thinking 'I don find that bit funny, I'll book someone else.'

In any case, 90 seconds is probably enough to give an overview of what you do. Have a look at the footage on www.jla.co.uk for an example of how the pros do it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally my preference is 5 mins unedited from one gig. Good enough quality so I can clearly hear what is being said.

1 or 2 mins is not enough. I really hate showreels with loads of fancy rubbish cutting in and out of very short clips. It may look slick, but anyone can manage to look good if there are only 10 second bits taken from various gigs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should probably do a showreel
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had this conversation with a few people and my response has and always will be, look at the movie trailers they don't put a block chunk of the movie in a trailer to try to sell it. Put snippits, tasters preferably of good crowd response. I doubt if any promoter will book you just from a show reel so you have to make it something to make them interested enough to seek you out. 5,10,15 min youtubes only reduces your audience because they've already seen you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a promoter's point of view, you want a set. 5 mins long (I will watch longer, but 5 mins is enough to get the gist). Preferably it starts from the moment you walk onstage so can get a judge of how you start, because you want to know an act is up to it right from the off.

Martin, how many times have you been excited to see a movie and then found out all the best bits were in the trailer?

By the way, I have booked people just from a video, and it tends to be the people with a punchy video that I book.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a general rule I will only offer acts a gong slot if they don't have a strong vid that is at least 5 mins long.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Savage speaks Easy wrote:
Martin, how many times have you been excited to see a movie and then found out all the best bits were in the trailer?


Too many times to remember but the trailers were good enough to make me go and see them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin_Caine wrote:
Paul Savage speaks Easy wrote:
Martin, how many times have you been excited to see a movie and then found out all the best bits were in the trailer?


Too many times to remember but the trailers were good enough to make me go and see them.


The showreel isn't there to try to fool a gullible audience into coming to see you. It is there to advertise yourself to promoters who will have seen a hundred of them before and understand how they work and are not going to be fooled.

I have mine on a page on my website where there are four videos, all around five minutes long. If the promoter just wants to see a video they can watch the first one. If they are interested enough to see how I can perform in different situations and with different audiences, then the others are there to allow them to do that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash-LT wrote:
I have mine on a page on my website where there are four videos, all around five minutes long.


So you have 20 minutes on your website, if this works for you then all well and good but personally I think it is counter productive. A photo gallery and good reviews would do a far better job of selling yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin_Caine wrote:
I think it is counter productive. A photo gallery and good reviews would do a far better job of selling yourself.


Okay, well if you think that promoters would prefer to book people on the basis that they have a mate who is good with a camera and know how to selectively quote from reviews than by actually seeing them perform, you go right ahead and work on that theory.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash-LT wrote:
Martin_Caine wrote:
I think it is counter productive. A photo gallery and good reviews would do a far better job of selling yourself.


Okay, well if you think that promoters would prefer to book people on the basis that they have a mate who is good with a camera and know how to selectively quote from reviews than by actually seeing them perform, you go right ahead and work on that theory.


Actually seeing them perform and how the audience reacts is just about spot on
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 mins is long enough.

Doesn't need to look slick or be slickly shot - but make sure you catch the audience laughter (in theory a good promoter will be able to allow analyse the material and delivery, but plenty need to hear the laughter to cue them in).
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